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Friday, November 11, 2011

BABY LISA IRWIN ? CLUES....Remote Viewing/Astral ? Travel Experience...

Lisa Irwin
I spent hours putting the Sam's Town photo's on here...And when I click "publish", and I don't know what happened, but my video was gone and there was no photo's....OMG- I don't have time for this.
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SO, CLICK ON THE TITLE OF THIS BLOGS POSTING TO WATCH VIDEO OR THE ACTUAL URL TO WATCH THE VIDEO.    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjt_xzZYfk
AFTER YOU WATCH VIDEO - COME BACK TO THIS PAGE AND VIEW THE MAP LINK WHICH IS BELOW.  IT IS THE AREA TO WHICH MANY BLOGGERS HERE HAVE LINKED TO MY VISIONS.  (I'VE INCLUDED MY SKETCHES BELOW FOR QUICK REFERENCE)
MAP: (BELOW THIS URL IS MY SKETCHES)


http://maps.google.com/maps?jsid=2&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=6711+Northeast+Birmingham+Road+Kansas+City,+MO+64117&fb=1&geocode=5364681062474529976,39.154424,-94.500339&sa=X&ei=p5HATr-sMo6RgQei-ZycBw&ved=0CAMQkwMwAg
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 THE PHOTO'S (MAP) OF SAM'S TOWN AND IT'S SURROUNDING.....VERY INTERESTING, TO SAY THE LEAST....HUH?   YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT!  IT DOES CONTAIN ALL THE SAME TYPE OF PLACES I SAW/VISITED IN MY ASTRAL TRAVEL EXPERIENCE..... THE CRUMBLING SLABS WITH RETAINING WALLS, AND I EVEN SEE SOMETHING IN THE MAP THAT LOOKS LIKE MY TOWER!  IT'S LEANING AND ALL...REALLY AMAZING - IF YOU ZOOM IN TO THE RIGHT, FRONT SIDE OF THE UPPER BUILDING, IT'S RIGHT THERE.....ALSO -
LOOK AT THE AREA RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO SAM'S TOWN...THEY FIT THE DESCRIPTION ALSO - WITH THE BIG HOLE ALSO......THERE ARE "TOWER LOOKING" OBJECTS INSIDE THE HOLE TOO.... BUT THE ONE THERE AT SAM'S IS UNBELIEVABLE.....
ANYWAY, THANKS TO PAT, WHO GAVE ME THE LINK...AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO VOICED THEIR OPINION ON THAT SPOT! GOOD WORK -

UPDATE:  COMMUNITY SEARCH FOR BABY LISA - SEE THREAD: (BUT 1ST, SEE THIS THREAD....IT WILL EXPLAIN THE REASONING BEHIND THE NEW SEARCH EFFORTS)
http://stephaniealmaguer.blogspot.com/2011/11/community-search-for-baby-lisa-irwin.html




*********ONE MORE THING.....IN ORDER TO KEEP EVERYONE'S CLUES, POSTINGS, THOUGHT, ETC...SURROUNDING THIS CASE - I'VE COPIED EVERYONE'S COMMENTS FROM THIS SECTION, AND PASTED THEM ALL ON THE "ORIGINAL" BABY LISA - MISSING BLOG.  THIS WAY EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS WILL BE ON ONE PORTION OF THE BLOG AND EASIER TO LOCATE AND PUT TOGETHER CLUES - ETC.... AND BRING THIS BABY JUSTICE!
HERE IS THE LINK TO THE ORIGINAL LISA BLOG -
http://stephaniealmaguer.blogspot.com/2011/10/lisa-irwin-missing-10-month-old-baby.html
OTHER BLOGS ON THIS SITE PERTAINING TO BABY LISA:
http://stephaniealmaguer.blogspot.com/2011/10/lisa-irwin-my-map-and-timeline-of.html
THANKS SO MUCH TO EVERY ONE WHO HAS BELIEVED IN ME & CONTRIBUTED TO THIS BLOG -

Stephanie Almaguer
"It isn't what you have, who you are, where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy, it is what you think about.”
*******IF A PICTURE IS WORTH 1000 WORDS, WHAT DOES THE PICTURE BELOW SAY?******


This picture will mean many different things - to different people....But the main thing I see is :  Deborah leaning to Jeremy for comfort - and him refusing....Hands in his pockets to be sure he doesn't touch her or lend any comfort for what's happened....IMO


51 comments:

  1. Steph not sure if this fits or not but there is a Rock Ridge Quarry 17 minutes from baby lisas house on N lister. Put in the address of 9001 Hickman Mills Dr. Kansas City Mo and its right by a bridge too that others have noted and a tall pole. I am not sure but its just a thought to your rock and dirt maybe. Anyways see if any of these pictures might help.

    http://rockridgequarry.com/index.html

    God bless this baby Lisa today is her 1 year Birthday I hope she is found.

    April

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  2. Steph- also I just wanted to add its right by other areas others have noted. The golf course, the Blue word and also by memorial park cemetary. I hope I am not clouding your judgement again but hopefully throwing this out there we will be able to get some new infomation.

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  3. Steph not sure if these are going to work. I have some more pictures for you. I am sorry but since you posted your drawings my mind has been wondering where this baby is. I am sorry if I am posting to many thoughts. The Rock Ridge Quarry has like a small body of water by it and I followed it on google map and it goes for awhile then leads into a pond or lake in a park area. I beleive the stream or creek is called Indian Creek. There is also a old dam and there are picturs I am going to try and put them here not sure if it will work though.

    http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=38.934700&ln=-94.710811&z=4&k=2 maybe that will work.

    http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17399859

    http://www.panoramio.com/photo/16465126
    just wonder if any of them look like what you saw in your viewing?

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  4. Steph here I go again. You don't have to post all these. Maybe I ought to just email you instead read this I found on the Indian Creek.

    Indian Creek

    0.0 Hwy D Bridge access in spring or high water only.
    0.5 Spring Branch on left.
    3.5 Wolfenbrager Bridge on Spruce Drive off Racoon Road.
    7.4 Mill Dam at McNatt. Stream backed up for about half a mile above this. Portage over dam. Rift below dam is hard on canoes except in high water.
    8.4 Elkorn Creek on right.
    10.1 Old bridge 3.5 miles east of Goodman just off Hwy C. Private.
    11.1 Bullskin Creek on right.
    13.1 Mayfield Bridge.
    18.8 Seller's Ford low-water bridge. Hwy 71 and Anderson are 0.5 miles west.
    19.3 Indian Creek Campground at Hwy 71 Bridge.
    19.8 Hwy 76 Bridge.
    21.3 Town Hole Access on right, next to Post Office in Anderson. Must carry canoes/kayaks to river. Fair access.
    21.6 Iron Canning Factory Bridge on county road south of Anderson.
    24.5 Concrete slab at Bosky Dell Ford, not shown on maps. If there is water over the slab, approach with caution! It is slippery, and there is a 4 foot drop below it. Except in high water, portage right.
    25.1 Lanagan City Park Access (Lanagan) on right.
    25.5 Hwy EE Bridge.
    27.0 Elk River. Next access at low-water bridge 0.4 mile downstream or at Mt. Shira Access 1.3 miles beyond that, on right with gravel ramp


    Make sure you read 24.5 over again.

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  5. NEVER APOLOGIZES FOR POSTING TOO MUCH INFORMATION! That's what this is for. The River I was "in" was deep enough for me be under water, to hide stuff...... But, that doesn't mean anything..... I will look at your maps and post again in a bit.

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  6. Just in case here are some pictures of some waterfalls too you can look through. See if they ring a bell.

    http://www.kansastravel.org/kansaswaterfalls.htm

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  7. Steph, this is missymae Pat E's daughter. We were just watching the news and they were talking about the new search in the northland they did today. seeing that news break AFTER watching this video my mother and I are blown away. bear with me as it was difficult to hear the anchor while it was on but the images alone were so close to what you were discribing in our minds. They searched an old resevoir and there was like this rectangular hole in concrete filled with leaves and mud and at the end of the long rectangle the dirt gave way to a hole that went down under a concrete slab. This is where they searched today for li but so far the search didnt turn up anything

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  8. Really....How did you see that? I would like to see it...... And, thanks - I'm looking up the waterfalls now.

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  9. I've looked to see pics of where was searched and couldn't find anything....I find an article saying nothing was found. I was also thinking...the waterfall could be only symbolic of an area...or could have only been used to get me to dive into the water so I could see under neath into the river.. I know it sounds crazy - But it was as real as if I was there. everything about it. I was even totally panicked as I dove into the water -
    "The Bible

    A common belief is that the subtle body is attached to the physical body by means of a psychic silver cord.[17][18] The final chapter of the Biblical Book of Ecclesiastes is often cited in this respect;[19]

    "before the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be shattered at the fountain, or the wheel be broken at the cistern"

    Paul's second letter to the Corinthians (Chapter 12, verse 2) is more generally agreed to refer to the astral planes;[20]

    "I know a man in Christ, fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I know not, or out of the body I know not, God knows) such a one caught up to the third heaven..."'

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  10. http://www.thiaoouba.com/astr.htm

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  11. Steph - I have been trying to find the news clip. it was on our local station. I was fortunate to DVR'd it. All I can say is when I was watching the news report..I looked at my daughter and she looked at me and we both tripped. I wish I could get it off my tv and send it to you.

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  12. Here you go:

    kmbc.com under live wire: Baby Lisa Investigation Continues - Northland search.

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  13. http://www.heartlandusaudiclub.com/ImageFetch.ashx?Size=0&ImageID=650

    Great & Amazing gift you have for sight. I found this image and other's of the Rock Ridge Quarry by tour sponsored for www.heartlandusaudiclub.com. Check out their pics from a tour.
    Sure hope this helps!
    I hope the pic, I uploaded works, but if not follow the website above.

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  14. Wow, those pics at the rock quarrey was pretty amazing.

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  15. Thanks everyone. Trying to look at FB link now...Plus I have 2 free readings I have to do and post... I will post later re: this post.

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  16. FYI...My computer monito went out, so I havent been able to look at any of these links (tried frommy phone, but it wouldnt open them?) I cant post free readings either. Trying to get one from my mom. Also, I just got word LE is reading this Blog......so, lets show them how smart we are!

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  17. Yes - the rock quarry photo's are very similar to what I saw.....I was I could see an arial view...As for the FB pic/page....It won't let me see it....

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  18. I am sorry about your monitor that sucks. I will try and see what else I can come up with for some more pictures of the rock quarry for you. Have you seen any more visions lately? ANything else you remember from the other night that you might not have written down that we can look at?

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  19. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=209942082992863047244.0004ae79b21a5bcdbda87&msa=0&ll=39.162378%2C-94.520627&spn=0.003194%2C0.00809

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  20. The last place LE searched ~ north of Stroud's Restaurant...
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=209942082992863047244.0004ae79b21a5bcdbda87&msa=0&ll=39.162378%2C-94.520627&spn=0.003194%2C0.00809

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  21. Also in the Stroud's area...north east of Stroud's (where LE searched twice)

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  22. OK- So, lets review real quick....
    5:00- Deb @ Supermarket w/Brother, seen on video
    5:15- Brother went home after dropping of Deb
    5:15 - 6:30 Deb cooked dinner & they ate before Jeremy left to work his extra job
    6:45 - Jeremy leaves for work....So, apparently, Deb was already outside drinking and smoking before he left....According to Samantha, she came to the house around 6:00. He also must have been there right as Deb came in the house to put Lisa to bed because she was crying, which is when Samantha said she left to go buy her some alcohol - So, I can see Jeremy saying to Deb on the porch..."I've got to go now and Lisa's in here fussy / sick" Lisa replies with, "Ok, fine - I'm coming" At which time the neighbor said, "I've got to go to the store anyway, I'll see you in a bit" Deb goes in, Jeremy goes to work......So, Debs in for 15 mins....before Samantha get's back at 7:00
    7:00 - 10:30 Outside drinking - and sometime during this time, Dane (friends of Megan Wrights) and Shane are with the lady's outside drinking, etc...also....NEVER ANY MENTION OF DEB GOING IN, CHECKING ON LISA, NOTHING. I find it hard to believe she never went in to check on the kids, period....
    10:30 - Deb claims she's drunk, goes in the house and everyone leaves.
    11:57 (1 hour and 27 mins later) Call made to MW phone # - call was just under 1 minute.....WHY? This was the 1 and only call ever made to that #, EVER - according to phone records.
    3:15 - 3:35 am - 2 calls (or attempt) to retrieve voice mail and 1 attempt to access the internet from the phone.....
    3:45 - Jeremy get's home & claims Deb was sleeping in her bed w/her son..lights on...screen bent....Wakes Deb after seeing Lisa's gone asking where she is..and eventually calling 911 a little after 4:00 am...having to use his work cell, because their cells were gone - apparently kidnapped also.

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  23. So, if Debs sleeping - who was trying to listen to her VM & get online? Better yet, if not Deb (Couldn't have been her, "she was sleeping")who would have the need to listen to her VM, & then try to get on the internet at 3:30 am? Not only that...her phones would have already of "been stolen" - right? SO- the $1 million dollar question is......WHAT HAPPENED FROM 10:30pm - UNTIL 3:45am? Here's what I think, I think Deb did go in before 10:30, maybe about 9:45ish, briefly to tell the boys to go to sleep, kind of angry because their playing etc...had waken Lisa up again - I think she tried giving her a bottle, but she kept crying. And then decided to put her in the bath....a warm bath to sooth Lisa into being sleepy again...And perhaps she left the bottle there on the tub...(I say this cause as I was typing, I see a running nose, sleepy eyed Lisa with a bottle, dozing off)....told the boys to listen for Lisa (thinking she'd be ok for just a bit) Went back outside and joined her friends....finishing off the last portion of her wine - which she didn't need because she was already drunk enough....and then goes in at 10:30 as she stated - turning off lights, etc..as she was making her way to her bedroom...and then passing out - Never even remembering Lisa was in the bath....because Lisa had already fallen asleep in the bathtub.....Had Lisa of been awake and making noise, she'd have heard her and remembered... AND, here's another question..... How does anyone know for certain, Jeremy didn't go home half way or 3/4 of the way through his job, when he saw it was going to take him much longer than he'd anticipated to finish.... Phone records indicate that he did try to call Deb to let her know, but couldn't reach her..- So, we'll say he left the job about 11:00pm- grabbed a drink, whatever and then ran by the house real quick to check up on them (cause he knew Deb had been drinking also) Got to the house, checked on Deb & let her know he'd still be at least a couple of hours - Before he left, he checked on the boys & then Lisa....but Lisa wasn't in her bed - Goes back in the bedroom, asking Deb where Lisa is...Deb says, "what"??... OMG - she kept crying & I....

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  24. Jeremy finds Lisa, places her beside the bed - Tries resuscitating her....And it's just a mess. He tells Lisa to call 911 & she tells him she'll go to jail and the kids, including his son will be removed from the home..... He losses it - Tells her he has to go finish his job and she needs to have it f-ing figured out before he gets home - In shock, he heads out and back to work. In either case, Jeremy home or not, Debs freaking out..... She goes to Samantha's for help.... Jersey is out and about finishing up work and see's them... Walks over to bum a cigarette, and see's something isn't right - reluctantly, she tells him - begging for help.... He agrees and a plan is put together - He uses Debs phone to try and make a call...(11:57 call to MW's phone) Him & Samantha are both gone - plan in action - by 1:00am. Before they leave - Samantha to go home, Jersey w/Lisa - He tells Deb to open a window and bend a screen to look like a break in. She's a bit loud and even crying doing this...Michael wakes up - she tells him to go back to bed & makes her way back to the bedroom & Michaels in her bed. She lays down and dozes off, waking back up around 3am...wondering where Jeremy is....trying her voice mail 2 times - seeing if maybe he'd left a message...He drives up, see's the lights were all still on, front window's open and screen messed up - and this becomes his reality - It sounds good....but I still don't know where Lisa is. ;(

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  25. Thank you for sharing! I gasped when I saw the windmill. I saw one on my drive this evening near Lisa's home and near the river by the casinos. I remembering commenting, "I didn't know there was a windmill down here." It was a modern one, however, like you'd see on the windfarms and not like the one you saw in your vision. Still...it is worth looking into!

    I am glad to know that LE is reading this blog! I feel like we can solve this together.

    A place near the windmill I wanted to look at has old buildings and I remember concrete tunnels like for drainage.

    Your pic, when you mentioned remodeling, reminds me perhaps of an old farm or rural home that may be under remodeling? Those often have old windmills. Sorry, I'm stuck on the windmill while others like the waterfall!

    I REALLY need to go to bed. Let's all keep trying to put the pieces together. :)

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  26. Also in the Stroud's area...north east of Stroud's (where LE searched twice) This link and one above has aspects of what your video portrayed.

    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=209942082992863047244.0004ae79b21a5bcdbda87&msa=0&ll=39.162378%2C-94.520627&spn=0.003194%2C0.00809

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  27. We are both awake. Very good. lol.

    Wow, this story sounds credible. I can see JI behaving that way...I hate to say that. I don't know him. But I have instincts about people and..yeah. I have to wonder too if it was actually his idea not to call 911 for the reasons you say. Except his true purpose is to have leverage over DB.

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  28. Steph - I am so absolutely excited to hear LE is reading your blog. I know or at least pray for BL that is is the right path to follow.

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  29. Dave, thanks for posting this timeline and map! Helped clarify for me the locations that have and have not been searched. LE's command post was in my area of interest. I think the location I was looking at is off of where it says Birmingham Rd right by the river.

    I believe she is close to home. Looks like they have searched the I-35 and Vivion area twice. The last time was after the boys were interviewed. I feel they must have something that leads them there. Or maybe I'm just hoping.

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  30. Agree...I actually gave the very location they searched (woods on the other side of Brighton, down from the apts...It on the map I posted on Lisa Irwin Timeline and map) Yet they searched there, I think more than once, and nothing...That pond thing actually looks like the shape etc.. I saw in my astral vision, but without water...Idk..I hope they find her soon...where exactly is Sam's town.... I did pick up a Samantha....but then again, there was a samantha w/Deb that night, which I didn't know about at the time?? So, who knows..But,many of you feel Sams town fits....so I'd like to see the area. Thanks

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  31. Yes, I think the Samantha you picked up on is the neighbor that was drinking with DB that night. I knew you were for real when you knew about the alcohol days before that detail came out! AND you knew names. Very impressive.

    Bah! I should have taken pictures while I was down by the old Sam's Town area. Honestly, all I saw was the old sign for it. The first time I went down there, it was dark and I mistook the sign for the casino for a large utility pole.

    That whole area is just covered with trees and brush. There is a railroad track and then there is the river. There are also low-lying utility lines. I think that is another reason I feel so strongly about the area. It cuts off to a dead end on Birmingham Rd (I think) and it has all of the qualities. BUT if they have searched there already....I don't know. I just don't know!

    When driving along I-35, 210, 435, it is almost as if there are endless possibilities of where she could be. I can understand the frustration of the police when trying to look without much to go on.

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  32. http://maps.google.com/maps?jsid=2&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=6711+Northeast+Birmingham+Road+Kansas+City,+MO+64117&fb=1&geocode=5364681062474529976,39.154424,-94.500339&sa=X&ei=p5HATr-sMo6RgQei-ZycBw&ved=0CAMQkwMwAg

    Here's the link I found. I just googled map os Sams Town and found the link.

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  33. If you get the link you will be able to enlarge it for bigger view.

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  34. Also it takes 5 mins to drive and 54 mins to walk. Interesting.

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  35. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2590909290462.142656.1186508702&type=3
    Please look at photos.

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  36. I've been trying to get the photo's on here from the Sam town map...but computer keeps freezing. BUT HOLY CRAP! I can't believe that the tower I drew, and almost everything else is there! I put the link up in the original post above....so at least you can click on it...

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  37. fOX NEWS: Private Investigator Ron Rugen told me that he and his anonymous source did an interview with Fox4KC yesterday. The interview is about the infamous 50-second phone call that went to Megan Wright from one of DB and JI's cell phones.

    During the interview, the anonymous man told Fox 4 news, what Ron already knew, that Dane was the one that was using Megan Wright's phone that night.

    “He was the only one that had the phone that night, no one else used the phone that night, it was in his possession the whole night,” He says Dane was acting secretive and edgy that night . The man wants to stay anonymous because he says Dane is known to be involved with gun, drugs and trouble.

    He said that he doesn't think that Dane would harm a child, but he would assist in a cover up.

    I talked with Ron Rugen and he said,

    "There are two things we don't know, did the call ever get through or did it go to Verizon. And just because Dane was using the phone he may not have been the intended recipient," said Rugen.

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  38. ok- so, we know that Dane and Shane had both been at the Irwin house that evening - correct - starting to see a picture.....and perhaps that is who maybe?? jersey?? Shane?? or even deb was calling for help - The real answer now is....who did Dane talk to - if at all....get the truth re: that question and your case is solved - period...Yet, if he helped - you won't be able to pry that from him - saying the phones were off AND stolen - pretty clever....can't prove you did or didn't call anyone - nor can it be proven service was out, for sure.....

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  39. You saw the area I'm talking about then! I knew it! Something keeps pulling me back there. Even if it's just for no other reason than it's a dang creepy place!

    I'm glad you got to see it for yourself. I wasn't sure what you saw and thought maybe I was way off.

    Thanks for the updates. I was beginning to feel discouraged. The trail seems like it turns cold but more details seem to be coming all of the time and I'm sure that LE must have more info. There is always so much secretiveness when drugs are involved. No one wants to be a "rat".

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  40. The old Sam's Town is now a Cerner facility, btw. It is not an abandoned building but the location is still interesting.

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  41. The Sam's Town photos do indeed have a lot of the markers you mentioned in your video. Is the "smoke stack" - as promos called it, what you're referring to as the windmill? When I turn the map with south pointing up it does appear to lean. Has LE checked this area out yet? Thanks Steph.

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  42. I can't believe this baby hasn't been found... :( I KNOW I continue to stick with my "drowning" scenario....It's just, if I can't stick with my "initial" thought - as in, when doing a reading- then I am indicating that perhaps I too, don't believe in this ability or seen as wishy-washy....THAT BEING SAID, I still can't get out of my head, a head injury in conjunction with Lisa. I'd posted before I felt she may have fallen in the tub & hit her head.....That is very plausible....I can remember my kids, little in the bathtub and me being right there in the bathroom with them, and them trying to stand and play and slipping - me catching them, barely! Very dangerous for an toddler to be, much less a baby who is just learning to stand, unsupervised. She could have even slightly turned the water on, slowly filling the bathtub fuller, slipping and hitting her head on the faucet?? Which leads me to this, and maybe why I can't escape the thoughts now on this.... After their last court ordered search - and possible evidense siezed - they request DNA from the boys in a 2nd interview....to compare and rule out certain biologicals in the home... Wondering if they found a very small amount of blood in the bath - or elsewhere, consistent with an area(s) BL could have been, injured- But because they don't have her actual DNA to compare their sample with- They can rule everyone else out with their DNA, yet prove it's BL because of the DNA....2 birds with one stone. DNA results can take up to 6 weeks, but can be finished as early as 5 days....So, I'm betting, the way things are progressing and just being able to semi know what LE's steps are - 1- They DID get some DNA from their search 2- They have some suspicions as to who it may belong to, believing to some degree, it's BL's DNA, &3- comparing it to the boys DNA to rule them out, as in "who's" DNA - This COULD be enough to arrest DEB, depending on what they may or may not have retrieved.

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  43. I can't believe she hasn't been found either. I was reading some other articles last night written by people who specialize in missing children. They don't understand the behavior of the parents but feel that the baby was abducted and that she is alive. There was presumption of a suspect - possibly Jersey or even JI - who did not premeditate but wanted revenge based on events that happened that evening. I remember your initial reading stating that someone wanted revenge. But you also said that you don't see anyone abducting the baby. I don't think so either, to tell the truth. The break-in at the window was staged - when police tried to re-enact it they couldn't get in that way. It is plausible, however, that DB passed out and left the door unlocked so an intruder could have come in that way. That's assuming that there was an intruder.

    Then, if BL is alive, how do you explain the hit from the cadaver dogs?

    I have even wondered if JI had something to do with it and maybe arrived home earlier than he said. I dismiss this, however, because it just doesn't fit. I don't believe either parent would intentionally harm the baby. I DO believe there was an accident and the abduction story is a cover-up. A moment of panic taken wildly out of control and now in too deep to take it back. Too many people involved who will get burned.

    I've also been wondering who is paying for this attorney? Is it the same person who put up the reward? This quickly turned into a scenario where it is the parents vs. LE instead of them working together. The whole thing is just so WEIRD!

    DB's father is upset about rumors on the internet and the way DB and JI are being treated in general. I don't think he had anything to do with it. I think he is just being supportive of his daughter and does not want to believe the worst of her.

    Steph, I do believe that you have a gift and what you see has significance. LE did remove many items from the house. Only they know if any of it makes sense. Did they ever get DNA samples from the boys? Last I heard, that wasn't being allowed.

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  44. They DID get DNA- cheek swab samples,from the boys. THE ONLY WAY I CAN PLACE THIS ON "REVENGE" OF SORTS..... IS IF DB WAS BEING VENEGFUL IN RE: TO SOMETHING JI WAS DOING.....OR JI BEING VENGEFUL RE: SOMETHING DB WAS/HAD DONE (THINKING LISA WASN'T HIS CHILD?) OR THE BABY'S "REAl" DAD BEING VENGEFUL, IN TAKING THE CHILD - WHICH WAS HIS... I THINK MY INITIAL "REVENGE" CAME TO ME RE: DB BEING UNFAITHFUL....AND PERHAPS JI HAS OR WILL TAKE REVENGE - BUT I DON'T KNOW... ALL MY AFTER THOUGHTS, RE: THE ENTIRE SITUATION DIDN'T CORRELATE WITH ANYTHING VENGEFUL...I DON'T THINK?
    IT WOULD BE GREAT IF BL WERE ALIVE - BUT THAT JUST SEEMS SO FAR FETCHED TO ME...... SHE'S ALL OVER THE NEWS, ETC.... AND THEY'RE BOUND TO KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY, UNLESS THEY STAY HIDDEN FOR WELL OVER A YEAR OR MORE....AND THEN STILL, THE RISK OF BEING CAUGHT IS GREAT - A BIG RISK....

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  45. .....I just had a thought....like a bolt of lightening.....(the revenge thing is in my head now....seeing as though it came from my first reading....) So...I DID get the name in my very first reading on Oct.4, Rashell - Rachel - and JI's first wife, Rasleen Raim - is the Mother of JI's son, Blake, & is whom she lost custody of to JI, - She has the greatest reason for revenge against JI....for taking her "baby" away.... and against Deborah because not only is she raising JI's and Rasleen's child, but she now had a new baby.... So, I guess a strong motive here would be to take their "baby" away - and swoop in, when the timing seems right, to take back her son, legally - Maybe that's where my revenge came from? If this is the case.... what's her association with the other people involved? Is there any connection to her or Samantha...her and Dane....her and Megan or Jersey? And where does she live?

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  46. http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/police-want-to-talk-with-new-witness-in-baby-lisa-mystery-phone-case

    Police are wanting to talk to Dane...But appears Dane has disappeared himself.....The link above is in re: to that.....I'm looking up recent events in the case....If I come across anything else, I will post that too -

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  47. Holy crapola....The mother of Blake - has filed for custody of him.....
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/family-missing-baby-lisa-irwin-moves-back-into-home-where-disappeared/

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  48. Omg - I feel so outta the loop. Between family visit, work and being tired...I feel behind :(
    This update could really be a twist. I saw and heard about the son's mom coming into pic but I was at work :( but come to jump in and saw your post. Anything new?

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  49. Wow, you called that one! Blake's mother did take the opportunity to file for custody.

    I'm with you, if BL were alive, I think that would have come out by now. Someone would have noticed within days that somebody had a baby that shouldn't have one. Too far-fetched for a perfect stranger to come and do that and get away scot-free. I know that we all wish she were alive and well but it is not realistic at this point. :(

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  50. Did you see this? My heart nearly stopped when I saw the article but it is not Lisa. This poor boy disappeared and was found in the same day. :(

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/dead-child-found-in-st-louis-suburb-near-cemetery/?test=latestnews

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  51. Pat - Was wondering where you were........I was screaming - PPPPPAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! LMAO.. I have not had a chanve to see what if any updates are happening yet today....I have to pay some bills before we're without lights, water, phones, etc.... I forgot to pay them, being so caught up in finishing reading, the blog, etc... :{} I will post something as soon as I take care of some personal business today.
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    Nocole - OMG.... That's sad.... I hate to say this, but I wish it would have been Lisa - I'm not trying to sound heartless, but the opposite. someone needs to pay for that babies life - and she deserves to be put to rest, properly and with dignity. (assuming she is deceased) The longer she remains "lost", the less chance of finding any viable DNA, cause of death, etc... & the better the chances of someone getting away with this crime.

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